Vol 3 December 2002       

a beaker of AquaDisk water
Water Purification
New AquaDisk
from Russia

with Leonid and
Elena Izvekov

by Carol Hiltner


Want pure, tasty, healing water conveniently?

Set a jar of tap water on an AquaDisk and stir it once. In two hours, not only will the water's chemistry be changed, without direct contact with the Aquadisk, but also its energetic composition will be restored.

Using the same technique, AquaDisk also has been proven to remove impurities from alcoholic beverages.

It's hard science developed through a spiritual lens, representative of the ferment of post-perestroika Russian scientific thought. And it is revolutionary. Russians call it "natural" technology — harmonizing ourselves with nature. And they see natural technology as our future. Our only future.

AquaDisksFor this interview, Spirit of Ma'at writer Carol Hiltner and her translator and host Natasha Baranova visited the Moscow office/laboratory of AquaDisk's inventors, Elena and Leonid Izvekov, where they demonstrated their apparati and provided a stack of documentation: test results, patents, health certificates, research papers, testimonials, and newspaper articles.

Carol:I tasted this water last spring at the UNESCO conference in Moscow, and the difference between it and the untreated Moscow water was startling.

Elena: So are you using a disk now?

Carol: No. I live in Seattle, where we have really good mountain water, so I don't especially need to purify it.

Elena: Does it run through pipes?

Carol: Yes.

Elena: As Drunvalo affirms: If it runs even a few feet through pipes, it is no longer alive. The AquaDisk restores life to the water.

Carol: So maybe I do need to use an AquaDisk. But that's quite a claim. How is your product different from other water purifiers on the market?

Elena: All of them use a mechanical or chemical approach to purification and require separable cartridges or cassettes. Unfortunately, none of these filters enables the finest level of purification because they all fail to remove dissolved iron, or ammonium salts — fecal nitrogen — or to stimulate and restore the natural ingredients of water.

But AquaDisk is selective in its effect. All valuable ingredients remain undamaged. Roughly speaking, it makes water that becomes activated and conforms to Russian sanitary requirements. For example, calcium ions and organic acids do not undergo any detrimental change, and they render the water tasty.

Carol: And all of this has been independently tested?

Elena: Yes, of course. When we first went to the chemistry department at Moscow State University with our method of purifying water, the professor, Oleg Shpigun, didn't want to pay attention to this research because he thought it was a crazy thing. He thought maybe we needed to go to a psychiatrist, not a chemist.

But with the first results he measured, Shpigun changed his mind. Since then, for two years, we have worked together. But still, he cannot explain why it works.

We found positive test results for ameliorating 37 ingredients with AquaDisk-treated water. Both total and dissolved iron were reduced by a factor of five; lead, ammonium nitrogen, and organic matter, by a factor of three; and total salts, by a factor of four. And no trace of chlorine or its compounds was found.

In addition, we found an increase in the level of dissolved oxygen, indispensable for normal functioning of the cardiovascular system and prevention of malignancies. AquaDisk has been shown to inhibit bacterial growth, reducing the total microbial count by a factor of 2.5, exterminating E. coli and Salmonella, and diminishing the indicators of turbidity and color, with no unpleasant odor.

Carol: That's all in this pile of documentation?

Elena: Yes, these are the official opinions and outcomes of tests performed at the Analytical Center of the Chemical Department of Moscow State University, as well as our patent and sanitary certificates. They are on our website also — unfortunately, however, only in Russian.

AquaDisk has been developed and manufactured by the most advanced methods. Both the mode of AquaDisk action and its design have been patented as an intellectual property (Russian patent No. 2,182,122 for an invention and Russian Certificate No. 22,940 for a Utility Model).

There is a Sanitary and Epidemiological Conclusion from the Federal Center for the State Sanitary and Epidemiological Monitoring under the Russian Ministry of Public Health No. 77. F.C. 19.361.P.000167.05.01, dated May 30, 2001, in compliance with State sanitary and epidemiological requirements.

Carol: I am curious about how you came upon this technology.

Elena: During the Soviet time, we worked in an institute, doing research that is very similar to what we are doing now. But then perestroika began, and we stopped working at the research institute because we needed money to live.

We started a business and earned some money. Then we closed the business, and restored the research in this direction because we liked it. We had a great advantage over the research institute because we could choose the subject and our way of working toward solutions. But the drawback was that we had no financial support.

Carol: What is the research that you are doing?

Elena: The research started from the influence of weak fields on physical objects, including on the human being. And we realized that 80 percent of a human being consists of water, and that water is the basis of all life. We realized the necessity for pure water on the earth. And we realized that all technologies that humans have now are technocratic — meaning that they help in one way, but they destroy in another. They destroy nature.

We decided to watch how water is purified in nature. Water is purified in nature without technologies.

Carol: I am curious where the idea came from.

Elena: From a dream [laughing]. We started looking in old books and speaking with other people.

Carol: But what was the dream?

Elena: The dream was that it was time to close the business and to do something real. So then there were many "occasions" we had, such as the person who came to us who had done some calculations of pyramidal construction.

pitching the waterWe built a pyramid like one we are using now, but we didn't understand why we needed it. And then we met people who knew shamans in Siberia. The shamans took a piece of kedr, or Siberian pine, wood and made a chalice of it. Then they put pitch inside the chalice — on every surface — and put the whole thing into water. Then the shamans used sounds and prayers and words. After that, the water was really healing water, and it would have that same ability for ten years.

You can use the pitch, or sap, of any kind of tree, but each one works differently because they all have different energies. Siberian pine pitch has a lot of energy.

We realized that pitch had a purifying ability. Again, we discovered this in old books.

Carol: What do you mean by old books — from the beginning of the twentieth century?

Elena: No, earlier — much earlier.

Carol: So where did you find these old books?

Leonid: We have a good library here, Lenin's Library, the main library of the Soviet Union. Also, Russian people love to read, and if you go to visit a friend, for example, and see his library, you may find something unusual — something that you need.

Carol: And the books sort of "fell off the shelf" for you?

Elena: Yes, it was really exactly so. There was an incredible chain of coincidences that led us to this point. When you begin to see so many coincidences, you begin to think, "What's this about?"

Because our idea was connected with human beings and water, we looked at the whole connection completely.

We learned that everything, even solid things, has a wave nature — a different kind of vibration, with different frequencies. Energy is a wave process with definite different vibrations. We know that every substance — it doesn't matter what it is — everything that exists in nature has its natural frequency. Frequencies of different objects in nature resonate with each other.

Carol: How do you determine these frequencies?

Elena: There are some researches where people measured the frequencies of human beings and the frequencies of water. Their frequencies are very close.

wave characteristics of waterThis graph [at left] shows the wave characteristics of water and humans. It was developed by Nikolai Sinitsin, a professor at the Russian Academy of Natural Science, and his research team.*

Leonid: When we applied a particular impulse to human cells and water, their frequency characteristics coincided.

Elena: We realized that water and human beings both responded to these impulses in the same way. After we knew what shamans were doing in Siberia with water, it was evident that, since the water in the chalice could be pure and healthy for ten years, this kedr pitch had exactly the spectrum of frequencies we needed.

Carol: Did the water have to stay in the chalice to remain pure?

Elena: In that case, yes. But our process is a little different.

Leonid: For our process, we began with the purest water we could find. Two hundred kilometers from Moscow, we found a source for this pure water, and we brought some and made some analyses on it to make sure it was really pure.

Elena: Of course, you understand that when the pitch is in the wood of the tree, it picks up information about the tree — about its diseases, everything. So to use this pitch we had to empty it of all this unnecessary information. Then, when it was purified, we could imprint the information about pure spring water.

Carol: So you are using the pitch as though it were a crystal?

Elena: Yes, but it is easier to put information into pitch than into a crystal.

Carol: And to do that, you used these pyramids?

wave characteristics of waterElena:This pyramid [at right] was made of specially resonant spruce, of the grade used for musical instruments, that was treated in water for more than one hundred years. It has a base of about one meter, and is tipped with a crystal "onion-dome" shaped like those on Russian Orthodox churches.

We use this pyramid as a generator of form. We realized that a pyramid works in some particular way — that on different levels, as measured from the base upward, it would work differently. We use some unique equipment with the pyramids to write the information on the pitch.

Leonid: The prototype information goes from the cathode to the anode through the pitch, and after that, the pitch has the complete information of the pure source water. It's on the level of a wave frequency — the information is like wave pulses. We are engaged in studying "energy information interactions," which are all about the wave process.

Carol: How did you extract the information from this pure water?

Elena: Also using wires [laughing].

processing coilLeonid: Everything has electricity. We live in the midst of electromagnetic fields. Everything is a wave. If you connect one substance with another, they will exchange information. If the pitch is pure — and it is, because we have cleaned it — it will accept the complete information from another source — any source. We give it the information from pure water.

[Leonid lifted a three-liter jar wrapped in foil and filled with pitch out of the pyramid, and offered it to me to smell.]

Carol: Mmmm, yes. I know that smell — kedr.

[He lifted out a copper plate that was suspended down into the pitch as in the photo above.]

So, what is the copper for?

Elena: It's the cathode.

[Leonid put the jar back into the pyramid.]

The imprinting process takes about 24 hours.

Carol: So what is this writing on the outside of the pyramid?

Leonid: It is Vseyasvyatnaya Gramota — an ancient alphabet that pre-dates the Slovanian language. It has 147 signs.

Elena: You know that, at one point, there was really only one language. That is approximately what this alphabet is.

Carol: Why is it on the pyramid?

Elena: To remember our roots. It is also an "energy information" interaction. Everything works together.

Carol: So if I drink the water, I will not only be pure, I will also be educated?

Elena: Maybe, maybe.

Carol: What is this wood for?

[The pyramid is surrounded by big hunks of log with wires attached to them.]

Elena: They're batteries — 1.5 volts — which give a natural electricity to the cathode and to other circuits in the device.

Leonid: These batteries are like the ones in your tape recorder — we'll show you.

[He hooked up a voltmeter to my tape recorder battery and the meter read 1.5 volts. He hooked up the electrodes to the log, and the meter again read 1.5v.]

It's natural — from the wood. They give the same energy, but they work longer. Additionally, they regulate the voltage independently from the temperature and atmospheric pressure. Also, they work on a natural frequency.

Elena: We don't use the 220-volt electricity with the 50-to-60 Hertz frequency that usually supplies our houses. We use natural electricity and a natural frequency.

Carol: Okay.

[I am still dubious.]

If I'm in the wilderness and need a flashlight, I can take a piece of firewood, and...

Elena: Yes. You can use it to light a lamp, but of course you must use a lamp designed for that battery.

Leonid: A normal light uses 5 percent of the electricity for light, and 95 percent for heating the lamp. For our purpose, we need our equipment to absorb all the electricity that is produced — not 5 percent.

Carol: So how does all of this go together to make an AquaDisk?

Elena: Inside a wooden disk — we use birch, oak, and some others — we put three things: the treated pitch (the frequency generator), a resonator (a copper circuit), and a special magnet (as the passive source of energy).

Leonid: This magnet is shaped like a truncated cone. This is a very interesting magnet — the magnetic induction on the poles is different, and the difference can be as much as 40 percent.

Carol: Is that a function of the shape of the magnet, or the material?

Leonid: Only shape, and also the proportion, the relationship between the two diameters and the height — which is according to a Golden Mean. Drunvalo describes the Golden Mean in his book in great detail.

Nobody wanted to produce this magnet. Everybody in Russia refused to do it. We asked Germans, and they called to the United States. From the United States, they gave the order to ...

Carol: China!

Leonid: Yes, and China sent only three of them. We took these three and went to our plants and showed them. Now we have such magnets.

Elena: So we put the pitch, the circuit, and the magnet inside the wood casing and close it. Then we strengthen its effect with this special piezo-ceramic disk which is covered with silver electrodes.

To use the AquaDisk, we set any size glass container of water on it. Then, with a wooden or plastic stick or spoon, we stir it in a counter-clockwise direction to make a vortex. We know from our school textbooks that when we cross magnetic fields, we receive electricity. In such a way, it begins to act.

We give a guarantee for two years, but in practice, it is active for four years.

Carol: And you know it has stopped working when your water no longer tastes good?

Elena: Yes, right. And it doesn't matter how much water you purify.

Carol: And what is this for?

[A stack of the piezo-ceramic disks with a magnet sitting on top]

Elena: The wooden disk is for small amounts of water, and this stack is for huge amounts of water — like a swimming pool, an aquarium, or a tank car.

Carol: What about for larger sizes, like for treating a city's water?

Elena: You see, running water through pipes, like we do in our cities, doesn't allow the water to stay alive. It could be tasty, but not alive. Water that comes from pipes, as Drunvalo observes, loses an electron. And also, they add chemicals.

But the biggest trouble now, for water in big cities, is the blue-green algae that lives in the water. They don't know what to do with this. Now, there is no way even to kill it. It likes our laundry detergents. It's everywhere — in pipes, ponds, aquariums — and it's a big problem. They don't speak about it because they don't know what to do with this stuff.

Carol: It's a new problem?

Elena: It's an old problem. Nobody is writing about it because they don't know how to solve it.

Carol: Is it poison?

Elena: Scientists call it "devil bullets." The AquaDisk solves this problem. We discovered this accidentally. Blue-green algae is a problem in fresh-water aquariums, you know. For sea-water, it's a red algae. We put in an aquarium disk — one per ton of water. At first, the algae stopped growing, and then it disappeared.

It's the same with a swimming pool. They put so many chemicals in the water. I stopped going to the fitness club when I read what they put into the water. The AquaDisk kills different kinds of microbes and the blue-green algae. We have tried it in private swimming pools.

We don't yet know all the possibilities for this disk. Can you imagine big city reservoirs?

Carol: Yes, I was wondering about that.

Elena: They put a lot of chlorine into that water, which is good for killing bacteria. But American scientists say that when chlorine touches human skin, a new substance is created, which gives cancer and disturbs the blood vessels.

Carol: I'll never take a bath again.

Elena: Only with the AquaDisk.

Leonid: Fluoride is even worse. It disturbs bones.

Elena: So, there are three kinds of AquaDisks — for the drinking water, for the bath, and for larger amounts like a swimming pool.

And there is data supporting these. And as I told you, you can put wine, for instance, on the disk, and the wine will be different. Our experimental results are with cognac — four times less vinegar after using the disk for 40 minutes. With vodka, toxins were reduced, and it became softer.

Elena: We also have an ActiveDisk for cars — to go in the fuel. There is a different kind of information in this disk. The first official experiment was on the railway. The disk improved the fuel economy by 22 percent.

Leonid: After two months of using the ActiveDisk in a fuel tank, we discovered some powder between the electrodes, and analyzed it. There were different kinds of metals. All of these were dissolved in the fuels, so an ordinary mechanical filter cannot remove them. The ActiveDisk can pull them out.

Carol: So, after these metals accrete, do you have to pull the disk out and scrape it off?

Leonid: Yes, exactly.

Carol: So there are many different uses for this technology?

Elena: We have many stories of people drinking this water and bathing in it for two months, and having all sorts of diseases disappear — like intestinal problems, kidney stones, and deposits along the spine.

Leonid: The structure of the water is changed on a molecular level. Everything in our world has a definite amount of energy — and the same with molecular water. And in a state of balance, it uses this energy for two things — to maintain its inner equilibrium, and to retain other bonds.

If the water is forced out of balance, then it reorients its energy to maintain the natural state. Thereby, these other bonds will start to disintegrate. The AquaDisk supports the water to restore its natural structure.

We have had clairvoyants tell us what they see. When you drink this water, the color of your aura changes. Some of them say that the radius of the energy of the disk is thirteen meters. With plants also, this water makes a difference.

Carol: So if people in the U.S. are interested in having one of these disks, how are they being distributed?

Elena: There are several disks being used in America, but no one is distributing them.

Carol: If someone wants one of these disks, do they have to come here?

Elena: It is possible to mail it. We are interested in distributors — and partners also.

We think this is the technology of the future.

AquaDisk for drinking water, $95; for bath, $130. Contact: Abiks LTD, e-mail: dialog@ddc.ru, DDC.ru. Moscow phone, 0117-095-289-6448, 0117-095-782-8926.

Leonid Izvekov was educated as a navigator and in radio-electronics, and Elena Izvekov graduated from the Moscow Institute of Electronic Industry with a specialty in mathematics.

Translator Natasha Baronova was a member of the team that translated The Ancient Secrets of the Flower of Life into Russian.

* Sinitsin, Nikolai, et al. "Specific Role of System 'Millimeter Waves — Water Environment' in Nature," Journal of Biomedical Radio Electronics (Biomeditsinskaya Radioelectronika), Section: Mechanisms of Biological Effects of Electromagnetic Fields, 1999-1.